And I agree with the criticism, movie sucked. Obviously this is going to contain a lot of spoilers for the ending of Midsommar, so if you're yet to see it, back away now. Instead of digging deeper though you choose to just say the film is bad. The movie's theme was not simply an emotionally unsupportive partner; this should have been made evident to you when you realized that he was not emotionally unsupportive when Dani's parents and sister died. up until the final death of these characters, the movie was interesting and worked. Christian, you're right, feels trapped in his relationship because of Dani's grief. This film takes Dani through a journey of dealing with her trauma and letting go of the last remnants of her old life (Christian) and finding a new “family” (albeit in sick and disturbing ways). Ari Aster‘s new film Midsommar sends a group of friends to Sweden to take part in a fabled mid-summer festival. I can't discredit the film aspects of it because I think it was incredibly creative, unique, and emotionally effective. The Swede cult people are always together, and when the women see Dani is grieving, they take her grief and make it their own and show her that she's not alone. And when she is dancing and she laughs ONCE. Huh? Go suck on a fucking transdick, poser. We're meant to feel her grief there, and I did. The entire film she clings to her careless boyfriend, she even wants him to come with her in carriage after she is crowned queen, so when does she even change? Let's talk movies we grew up with! A woman's struggle with grief and toxic masculinity? Gonna be a yikes from me dog. The cultish mentality of group-think and participation in ritual and sleeping together etc. It's another cliche pagan horror film people exaggerate the uniqueness and depth of simply because of mid-budget cinema's death in current American film culture. All of these themes are thrown together messily in Midsommar without any thought of how they tonally contradict another. Midsommar is a complicated, utterly freaky film, and here are fifteen subtle details that most viewers will have missed during their first viewing. If anything, they don't get much time in the story at all. If I'd never seen a movie that was deep and actually had strong meaning and emotion that this film fails to reach then I'd probably think the film was okay. Just a needlessly long movie about nothing really happening except people slowly dying, and even most of the deaths aren't made interesting. But then again, look at the sad state this sub is in nowadays: The saturation of beaten to death topics, ubiquitous information, extremely superficial takes, an overwhelming recency bias, and a general favor for more commercial cinema. It's not like Alien or Halloween or Jason or something where the entire middle act revolves around people dying etc. We see Dani's stoic, stifled pain in her dysfunctional relationship with her boyfriend Christian. Martha Marcy May Marlene. They are flat, then funny, then scary etc. Midsommar is arriving on Digital/On Demand September 24, and on Blu-ray Combo Pack and DVD October 8, so keep your eyes peeled when you revisit the film at home. Indie films are having a tough time at this summer's box office, but A24 hopes that Ari Aster's folk horror movie "Midsommar" changes that. What’s the point of posting this here, where people who enjoyed the movie are gathered for discussion? Do we even know what her job or situation was? Important as Dani's journey is searching for empathy and connection which leads me to bring up the second point. I'm not sure on this one but perhaps even Dani's emotional investment in her sister was simply a burden created by familial ties. sorry. Her boyfriend didn't help. Email. Midsommar – Il Villaggio dei Dannati, nuovo film horror di Ari Aster (Hereditary – Le Radici del Male) è attualmente nelle sale americane (nei nostri cinema arriverà il 25 luglio). Fuck you and your dumb ass. Again we literally see her laugh once during the dancing scene. A subreddit dedicated to Ari Aster's movie Midsommar, releasing in 2019. was expecting much more through reviews calling it a ‘masterpiece’ and something that would become a classic in the future: frankly, i pray it doesn’t. I kept feeling like they were building towards something, like pieces were being added to the puzzle and eventually there would be a big picture and it would all come together. view in app. I think miillkyytea have talent as a person who can push the keys on a keyboard in, but you lack any insight into the depth and scope of films, and you lack a worth while opinion to share. The tonal and pacing issues with Hereditary were overlooked because of the phenomenal performances of the actors. She's discovered a new family and way of looking at the world, and this also--at least to me--touches on many deep ideas about humans and human nature that I'll outline below: In the West, in "modern" society, traditions and culture relating to being human and our connection to each other and dying out more quickly than ever. but i DO NOT recommend watching this movie. 'Midsommar':How a bad breakup inspired the most 'utterly horrific' movie of summer Fourth of July movie guide: The 11 biggest films to keep you entertained after the fireworks The scene where she breaks down hysterically and the women start crying in rhythm with her and when she starts to "understand" the girl when she doesn't speak Swedish are very unconventional methods of conveying this point. Will some one dissect why I should like this movie if I don’t even like the characters? Dani had no real arc as a character other than the fact that she smiles in the ending shot. Best 30 minutes I've ever reclaimed. I wanted so badly to like to this film but it went from cheesy horror to beautifully weird to comically campy one scene to the next. And if that's the kind of film, where the pain of the main character is only justified because the absolute WORST possible thing has happened to her then i think it's bad student filmmaking 101. Saw it last night and I don't even like Hereditary so this one I got up 30 minutes before the end and just said NOPE. This movie was so up it's own arse. We are never shown that this is a particularly happy place even though we are at length told it is. Gender is not the same thing as a sex. The movie has no obligation to mine one vein of horror, it wanted to jump around and it did it excellently. Critiques are for shining light on the art piece and seeing what reflects and what dulls, not for sharing your own worldview --- if you have something important to say then make your own movie. Followed by a scene of Dani sobbing gutterally into her boyfriend's arms. In hereditary there is a greater definitive connection between the parents mourning together, whereas in Midsom, you can see it in Christian body language alone in that scene that there is a lack of connection. You have to ask yourself why no one is worried these people are just not showing up to dinner, or found anywhere. Hereditary was 10/10 though. It’s scary, but not particularly so. Still, it's disappointing to see posts/comments on this sub exhalting films like this one as "modern masterpieces" so often. It doesn't work for Midsommar because it directly contradicts the movie's theme of an emotionally unsupportive partner. Get a 2 month FREE trial to access thousands of Skillshare classes today! Her therapist didn't work. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Bad critique. Gender. Her parents and sister were dead. While some may see this as a good thing, many people believe that humans have a need for religion, for belief, for meaning in life that cannot be found through simple hedonistic pleasures. of dani and christian. This is very realistic. Dani also though, is only clinging to Christian because of her lack of independence. Fortunately, dans didn't have to wait long. Why not r/movies? I think the film had pacing issues aplenty, but it was a really good movie. Not to mention that there are a few fan theories that the cult had orchestrated the deaths of her family in a ploy to bring her to Sweden and become the May Queen. It further dilutes the powerful climax of the portrait of a woman, shrouded in flowers and a flagrant portrayal of her grief. The guy was luke warm about them, tired of dealing with her sister's shit, and got roped into a massive, massive, insane family trauma and put forth at least a bit of an effort to be supportive. The fact taht Dani's boyfriend was holding her there invalidates the rest of him being a pretty crappy boyfriend? 138 Dislike. The belief system of the happy inhabitants of Hårga seems to be a mix of northern European paganism, occult tradition, arcane numerology and made-up nonsense. Various theories on Reddit pertain to Pelle, but one of the most intriguing ones suggests that Pelle is the Hårgas' Oracle, and he plotted out the events that unfold in Midsommar himself. alright, i get the whole ‘new trope on horror’ idea; i can appreciate a weird movie, especially a weird horror movie at that. This is the most poisonous part of critiquing. Midsommar: 15 Hidden Details Everyone Completely Missed. Sure, they're scary fucking people, cruel and manipulative etc. Am I supposed to be intrigued by what Aster is trying to say about grief and family? so much so that people are out there literally arguing there are no differences between the sexes. It is akin to saying Salvatore Dali's melting clocks are bad, because you would have had them be watches. Indie films are having a tough time at this summer’s box office, but A24 hopes that Ari Aster’s folk horror movie “Midsommar” changes that. Spoilers ahead! Look at their conversation when she finds out he is going to Sweden. I didn't feel that whatsoever, these scenes maybe meant to evoke a sense of community, felt sterile. Reddit. The movie instead focuses on a flimsy plot of missing characters we have no emotional investment in, for the obligatory thrill of horror tropes. Last summer, Aster’s featur… - "/tv/ - Television & Film" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of television and film. We already know his intent and deep desires as it pertains to their relationship, and him comforting her in that small moment seems very sympathetic but not empathetic. People are talking about gender. The tragedy within the story is that Christian already wanted to leave Dani, but felt trapped after her family died. Yeah, this movie sucked. We never see her laughing or talking we only ever see her look stern and pensive (and really why would she want to talk with her equally unsympathetic joyless boyfriend and his bro friends). These flaws are overlooked in light of the film's beautiful visuals, but are crucial to good storytelling. I think ultimately Ari Aster is a fantastic filmmaker, but a terrible storyteller. "the death of dani's family was never brought up again".